Orlando History Makers Podcast

Orlando History Makers is a podcast that offers a unique and intimate glimpse into the lives and personalities of the city’s most influential leaders — past and present. Through candid conversations, we uncover the stories behind the people shaping Orlando’s culture, legacy and future.

Hosted by Commissioner Robert F. Stuart. 

One episode will be released each week. 

Episode 1 - Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer

In this episode, Commissioner Stuart talks with Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer as he shares his rise to leadership in Orlando and the issues and projects that make Orlando a vibrant and exciting city.

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Commissioner Robert Stuart:

Hi, this is Orlando City Commissioner Robert Stuart. Very soon I'll be retiring from my position after 20 years of service to the citizens of Orlando, but before I retire, I want to leave a gift of history. I've had the wonderful opportunity to interact with so many people that have had such an impact on our city and how it's grown and how it's developed. Please join me on this audio journey as we meet these very interesting and influential people.

Thank you for joining us today for joining us today for a new podcast. I'm calling it Orlando History Makers. I'm your host Orlando City Council member Robert Stuart and I'm honored to talk with some of Orlando's great leaders and learn what makes our city and community so exciting and vibrant. If you like this podcast or have ideas about how to keep this podcast going just reach out to us through this channel. In doing these podcasts, it's my intent to bring some great stories Orlando's history to life and to look at the impact of these events and the people and to create an interest in our very exciting history. Today, of all podcasts that I do, this may actually be my most difficult, Not because of my guest, but because rather, I've sat alongside Mayor Dyer for almost 20 years. So let me introduce my guests and my friend and Orlando's longest-serving mayor, Mayor Buddy Dyer.

Mayor Buddy Dyer:

         Thank you. Commissioner.

Commissioner Stuart:

Welcome. So before we begin let me share a little bit about mayor Dyer. He was born in Orlando but raised in Kissimmee, graduated from high school in Osceola County. graduated from Brown University, later became a Florida Gator by graduating from the University Florida Law School  He was elected to the Florida Senate in 1992, District 14, my brother's old district, and he served there for 10 years  Then 2003, when mayor Glenda Hood was selected for Secretary of State by Governor Jeb Bush, there was a special election and, mayor, you are elected for the first time as Orlando's mayor, serving ever since. Now there are plenty of accomplishments and plenty of details about Mayr Dyer all over the web, social media and what's happened in the last 20 years. I promise you he's made the news almost every day for the last 22 or 23 years so we're not gonna spend a lot of time talking about that except to say that Orlandomemory.org has a lot of information. So let's get into it today, So, Mayor Dyer, welcome again. It's a little known fact that your first attempt at public service was to run as a city commissioner in Kissimmee and you lost.

Mayor Dyer:

I was very fortunate to lose that race

Commissioner Stuart:

And let me speak for Orlando, Kissimmee's loss was our gain. I'm just thinking as I was reading through this you could have been the Mayor of Kissimmee.

Mayor Dyer:

Yeah I was very fortunate I lost that first race

Commissioner Stuart:

Now will you share a little bit about your early life here and how you really came to leadership in Orlando.

Mayor Dyer:

Yeah absolutely. So you mentioned that I was born in Orlando raised in Kissimmee. So I was born in old Orange Memorial Hospital and back in those days if you lived in Kissimmee you had two choices, come and be born in the hospital in Orlando or be born at home and fortunately my parents decided to come to Orlando which benefited me later in life because my Senate District contained the place I was born. And of course, City of Orlando does so I've always been able to say as I was campaigning I was born here.

Commissioner Stuart:

Well you always say that and it's great, because just as you explained you came to Orlando because that's where the hospital was and people didn't know Mayor Buddy, isn't he from Orlando? I go.”no no you grew up in Kissimmee but he was born here.”

Mayor Dyer:

That's right and if you think back that was pre Disney so Osceola County if you can imagine this was 12,000 total residents or 3,500 in Kissimmee and 1,500 probably in St. Cloud and then the rest in an unincorporated. There wasn't really no hospital I mean it was just really a cow town. Very rural, very Ag-oriented growing up. I knew one Hispanic kid one total thing about that in the population in Osceola is now a majority Hispanic so huge changes just like here in Orlando. I graduated from Osceola High School I played all sports when I was growing up baseball, football.

Commissioner Stuart:

You’re a pretty good second baseman/ I heard.

Mayor Dyer:

I was okay in baseball and pretty good in football too but believe it or not so I never we never made it into any state competitions in Osceola. I made it in one act play competition. We made it to the state level so a lot of people don't know that I was the one of the best young thespians in all of Osceola County but we had…

Commissioner Stuart:

I didn't know, that's great to know

Mayor Dyer:

We had a drama teacher that just inspired people so most of the people on our competition teams were football players. And we would go places and you would encounter those that you would expect to be on those teams and then you'd see our team and it's like,”oh yeah there's the Cowboys from Osceola.” The quarterback on our football team went to Princeton the year before I graduated. He was trying to get me to go to Princeton but I wanted to go to an Ivy League school and since he'd gone to Princeton I needed to look elsewhere and Brown was kind of a hot school at the time. So I chose to go there and it was enlightening eye opening we only had three TV channels you recall back then. Maybe you could get PBS because ABC, NBC, and CBS. So you didn't have the exposure to the world that our kids have today. So it was very enlightening for me to go to Brown and the population that they had there was some they had kids from every state in the country. They said they could fill the class with all valedictorians if they wanted but they didn't want to, they've got a very diverse class and I learned a lot that's interesting there. Yeah I played rugby I was on the Ivy League championship. John Kennedy played on our team, “John John” and so I've had an opportunity to party in high-end a sport at the Kennedy estate. Brian Moynihan, who's president Bank of America was our scrum half. So I had a good four years. I learned about snow. I'd never seen snow till I went to Brown. I came back I got a degree in civil engineering and I came back to Orlando and worked four years as an environmental civil engineer.

Commissioner Stuart:

And that's how you came to Orlando

Mayor Dyer:

That's how I came to Orlando initially. I could get into all of my engineering exploits but I'll save that for now and just say that I was able to save enough money to put myself through law school. So I went back and got my law degree at University of Florida and was editor-in-chief of the law review and clerked for a number of a couple of Florida firms and Atlanta firms during law school and came back to a firm here in Orlando. And I don't know how I had the intention but I thought that I probably wanted to at some point go into public office and part of it was when I went to Brown it was the most expensive school in the country for two of the four years that I was there but I ended up being able to go cheaper to Brown than I could have went to the University of Florida because of all the financial aid that I got they used to have basic equal opportunity grants and supplemental grants and scholarships go any so and I came out with virtually no debt I had $4,500 at 3% interest that I just stretched out and stretched out.

Commissioner Stuart:

You probably paid over 20 years.

Mayor Dyer:

Yeah. so I graduated from law school, came back to Orlando went to practice with a firm called Smith, McKinnon and Matthews, and two years in I looked at running for the state house against a guy named Bruce McEwen. Maybe some people remember him because he served probably 10 years in the legislature and it was a year that my wife and I became pregnant, my dad was dying of emphysema, and my law firm…we broke out and started a new firm and I thought this probably isn't the best year to also be running the public office. So I gave all the money I'd raised back and waited till the reapportionment year the population in Orlando had grown enough that they were going to go from two senators to three. So Rich Crotty and Tony Jennings were the senators in the area and they drew seats that would accommodate, them largely Republican seats, and put all the leftovers into a Democratic seat and I decided that looked like a good place to run I thought I was gonna end up being against Dick Batcher maybe Alzop Reddick and they both decided not to run. And two days before the Friday for end of qualifying, I was the only candidate in the race and then find people qualified on Friday and one of them was the Florida Ag Commissioner sister Candy Crawford who was then the fire marshal under Bill Gunter. So she immediately had all the Tallahassee money but I had I had the African-American ministers with me which was a good thing in that district and ultimately I prevailed won that seat and then served in the Senate for 10 years. I was the Democratic leader for three of those 10 years. At the end of that I ran for Attorney General, this would have been 2002, is tough year to be a Democrat and our model was as long as the top of our ticket which turned out to be Bill McBride. Didn't lose by more than 10. We'd win the race model was exactly right unfortunately McBride lost by 16 and we lost by two and a half to a guy you probably heard of, Charlie Christ yes so

Commissioner Stuart:

Then Republican

Mayor Dyer:

Then Republican. At that point Bob Graham was the US senator, senior US senator and he was considering running for president. He asked me if I would come be his general counsel in DC and that's what I was arranging to do while coaching flag football was between the election and Jeb Bush who had won reelection as governor appointed Glenda Hood, who was then our mayor to be Secretary of State and the city commission set a special election. She got appointed in December and they set the special election for the last Tuesday in January, so pretty quick yeah turn around, I remember that so there were seven people that were already in the race because Glenda had said that she wasn't gonna run for reelection and there's a year left on her term and everybody started telling me that I needed to think about running for mayor. And that was nowhere in my playbook I had never considered running for local any local office other than Kissimmee that time. So I got a call one morning, I guess it's a firefighters who always supported me in a union support and they said they weren't going to commit to anybody else until I decided whether I was gonna run. So,  I got a call from pastor Sam Green and he was at the time the pastor of the largest African-American church…

Commissioner Stuart:

St. Marks, I think right?

Mayor Dyer:

St. Mark, yeah, and he said our congregations just spent the last hour. This is about seven in the morning praying about whether you should run for mayor and we think you should. So when you get that kind of call it's kind of, okay maybe I should take this seriously, so I decided to had a family meeting and we decided we'd do it and I was fortunate I had pretty good name recognition. I'd represented 90% of the city in my Senate district so I won a run-off against Pete Barr and then I've been mayor ever since.

Commissioner Stuart:

Okay so there's so much has happened in your tenure as mayor and we can go through it and I have been honored to be able to sit next to you and be part of, we have the venues, the growth of the city, the expansion of the airport, the emphasis you've made on public safety, there are other significant events have shaped our city, like the Pulse Tragedy and there's much, much more. When you reflect back on more than 20 years, what do you remember most fondly?

Mayor Dyer:

Fondly, okay that's a qualification because there are a lot of things that I remember and some of them are fondly and others are not but I think how Orlando has become such a welcoming city, even in today's political world we remain a bastion that embraces diversity. And people know that they can be loved here for their true selves. So I would say, I remember our will think most fondly upon what our city is and what it represents and it was shown most after the Pulse because we were already that welcoming city you couldn't have conjured that up just that day we showed the world what we were.

Commissioner Stuart:

The other day, I asked this question to mayor Demmings. I said. “okay give me your top kind of two or three things that that you feel of has its lasting impact on Orlando.” And Mayor Demings went through his entire last campaign and just it's got nice stopped there about the eighth one I said, “okay that's enough Mayor.” Okay I'm looking for two or three that are really important to you so let's look what are the two or three kind of issues that you think when you look back and you think you're gonna look back 20 years from now that really helps shape our community

Mayor Dyer:

So I would say helping to create this culture that we have a partnership and collaboration because whatever was on his list of eight or ten things and the things that I'm gonna talk about as well are all because we've been able to work together the city and the county working with the business community and are not in it for profits to achieve things that we couldn't if we were siloed. And we sometimes take that for granted, what we're able to accomplish in Orlando because of the willingness to put partisanship aside and work together. I mean look at our city council. You wouldn't really know who the Republicans are versus who the Democrats are, and we all work together on the list of things. I think the community venues are certainly have to rise up as one of those things between and that I think fostered the collaborative nature that we had was the county and the city working together to put that funding together to build a performing arts center and the now Kia Center and in Camping World, that's certainly there at some point in the future. I think Sunrail is going to be something that everybody says oh thank goodness we have right now. It's there but it's got to be expanded so I wouldn't put it at the quite at the top yet but at some point it will have that type of status. Recognizing and supporting the arts, I mean think about what we've done your old community center that we turned into the one of the best places for a ballet to be housed. We're sitting here in my office looking out at the performing arts center but what we've done for the Philharmonic and utilizing the Plaza Live now so supporting the arts.

Commissioner Stuart:

In my conversation with Mayor Hood and you've made the same assumption and our same identification. I said. “What really is makes our city great?” And she goes, “Well it makes our city two things, there's a neighborhood say we deal with and our willingness to engage all the people and all the stakeholders and making a decision.” She said especially in the business community and to say what do y'all where do y'all want to go let's see if we can get there together and she felt like that was the key thing Mayor Frederick said the same thing and I think you three, as leaders, I think are really the example of saying what do we want to accomplish we kind of put our egos away on how do we get there.

Mayor Dyer:

And sometimes we take that for granted. But you got to work on that you know it doesn't just happen. You have to work and be willing to do that so there's sharing of the credit even when some people aren't deserving of the credit, you share the credit anyways. And then there's also being you know sharing the blame when things don't work exactly the way you think it should. And perseverance is another, perseverance because if you think of SunRail for example. we failed twice at the legislature right before we were able to get that done.

Commissioner Stuart:

Okay, so there's a lot of cool things that the mayor gets to do and I've told this story about you on several occasions about your April Fool's joke. And you have shared on almost every occasion that that you get more comments about your voice on the entering and exiting the Orlando International Airport, tell us about the April Fool's joke.

Mayor Dyer:

Okay, so I tell everybody, I've been doing this for 22 years. I've done a lot of things that I think are pretty important things like what we just discussed, but I get more notoriety and positive feedback about the voice at the airport than any single thing. And I was just in Ireland and we're at the Guinness brewery doing a tour. This guy comes over and says. “Your Buddy Dyer. I hear your voice at the airport all the time.” And I look at him and he's wearing a Magic jersey. But I get that everywhere so it's pretty notable other mayors have copied now, right. They have that up but it is what I get most is I know that I'm home when I come back and I hear your voice on the tram. So a couple April Fool's ago, staff came up with this. It wasn't my idea. We recorded me doing that but we told everybody on social media that the audio had gone down on all of the trams at the airport. So I was coming out there to personally use a megaphone and do the welcoming stuff. And then we had recorded me doing that and put that up on social media. So I would say good 30 to 40 percent of the people thought I was really at the airport doing that including my son, Drew,  who when I was telling that same story to somebody in his presence said, “You weren't out there. I was going somewhere Dad, and I was looking to see which terminal you were at. So it was probably the best April Fool's prank that we've done.

Commissioner Stuart:

I think it's good I tell the story and I give you more credit that you stood actually on the tram and you were greeting the people on the tram which is…

Mayor Dyer:

We had done, we had taped that so there was video of me doing that, yeah.

Commissioner Stuart:

People laughed about it so I thought it was great. Okay, so, we've talked about what is important to you and that I think is important. And it, like I said, has been honored just to sit next to you for so long. Are there a couple of kind of “behind the curtain glimpses” of things that you'd like to share about how, or about what our community has been involved in? I know that we had such a long time challenge in the Arts Center. So it starts with Frederick and gets through with Hood. I shouldn't be so bold. With Mayor Frederick and Mayor Hood. And then it really comes to reality with you. But when it comes to reality, there's been a lot of stuff that kind of led to our community's acceptance of moving forward on this.

Mayor Dyer:

Well, I think one of the most important things that we did was put all three of those projects together. So having the Performing Arts Center, the Amway Center (the Kia Center), and Citrus Bowl. As a package made it easier to actually easier. It seems harder to do all three, but once you had all three, you had and said we're not breaking these apart. You had the supporters of the individual different pieces that were supporting each other. And there were some of the county commissioners. when we were getting the TDT vote that probably only wanted to vote for one of the three. But by having the other two as part of it, they helped out with the process for all three of them together.

Commissioner Stuart:

Orlando has a pretty colorful leaders in the past. I've told stories about Mayor Langford and told stories about, as I was told by Randall James, about him stealing the Presidential Seal during an event when he was here. Randall used to tell me that story and we would laugh and laugh about it. What are some colorful characters that come to mind, characters that I think people ought to kind of know a little bit about and know about our history?

Mayor Dyer:

Certainly Bob Snow, if we're describing colorful, comes to mind. The creator of Church Street Station and at one point it was the third or fourth most visited tourist attraction in all the Florida.

Commissioner Stuart:

And it was the beginning, really, of Disney Village. I mean, people came here and Disney went, oh, we think we can do this down here. And they did. And people put kind of coming downtown for that part.

Mayor Dyer:

Yeah. And it's heyday. They bus people. Yeah, there'd be dozens of buses sitting around over off under the under I-4, the nickel beer night to the night at Nichols at Church Street Station and then Nichols Alley. It was another one later on when the disco stuff was in. Certainly he was a character.

I don't know necessarily a character, but a friend and somebody that's been important has been Jim Pugh.

Commissioner Stuart:

Yeah, I was just thinking that.

Mayor Dyer:

Jim has had supported me in a variety of endeavors from the Senate to my AG campaign to the mayor's campaign. He never, ever asked for anything. And I had campaigned on doing the performing arts center. Nobody else of the seven were campaigning on that. So the night before the election, he was in the campaign office and he said, “Hey, I'd like to help you. On the performing arts center, we let me do that.” “Of course, I'll let you do that.” So I didn't have to wrangle him in to do it. He was certainly well, ready, willing and able to do that. And without Jim, we probably wouldn't have been able to get that done.

Commissioner Stuart:

I know Jim has been special to me as well, but I think Jim's one of those kind of characters that when people look back over Orlando's history,

Mayor Dyer:

Has had his hands in hundreds of things and all of them been positive to progress our community and has never jumped out and wanted all the credit. He just wants to see things get done, which is which has been a really neat because I think it's a core of those people in our community that love our community want to get it done.

Commissioner Stuart:

Yeah, I would agree with that.

Mayor Dyer:

And another colorful person, come to think of it, is John Morgan. But Morgan, although he is in the highlight in terms of promoting his firm, the philanthropic stuff that he does, he rarely takes credit for. Absolutely. He does a lot of stuff that people don't realize, like Second Harvest, Harbor House, those types of things.

Commissioner Stuart:

OK, now, legacy is an interesting word. I know you you're now looking at the end of your last term in a few years and you I think what's happened is, I have the privilege of being sitting next to the living legacy of what you've done with our city. When you think of this, what are some thoughts and guiding words that you would give to the kind of the next generation of leaders?

Mayor Dyer:

I always tell school groups that whatever you're working on, make it your priority and do the very best that you can do with that. Because when you do that, you don't know who's going to watch you have seen you doing what you did, whether it's sweeping the floor or something more important than that, obviously, that opens the next door for you because of how you have performed at the task that's at hand. So that's one piece of advice. And then I've always been one to think you need to learn about something before you render your opinion on it. So that's two ears, one mouth. Yeah. Thing. So I need to listen.

Commissioner Stuart:

And by the way, let me just interject that. That's what drives me crazy about you, because I want sometimes I want you to I want you to come unglued. And you are so patient and I have learned so much sitting next to you for that purpose. And I think candidly, I've said this on many occasions that really kind of comes out of your legislative background and that where you're listening for where the common ideas are.

Mayor Dyer:

And you know, you're not going to agree on all the issues, but you have that. I've never been in that position until I served here. I've always been in a position of leading and when you get into a legislative committee, you got to figure out how to collaborative. Yeah, yeah. Autocratic.

Commissioner Stuart:

Yeah. And I think you brought that to the city, which has been great stuff. And I appreciate that. So if you want to know more about Mayor Dyer, about his leadership or maybe some of the things that he has accomplished and things we've accomplished together, you can learn more at OrlandoMemory.org or visit Orlando's own website, Orlando.gov. Or, maybe just go there and look at how his experiences have influenced our community. And I appreciate that. So seriously, I'm so grateful to even share the deals with you. So thank you very much.

Mayor Dyer:

Thank you, Robert.

Commissioner Stuart:

Thank you.

Mayor Dyer:

This was fun.

Commissioner Stuart:

Mayor Dyer, you have done so much. Our entire community would not be what it is without you today. And 22 years of leadership now and I'll tease because oftentimes you would say I'm the long I'm the longest serving mayor. And the answer is, yeah, you were. But you weren't the most elected until the last election because somebody got elected six times.

Mayor Dyer:

Well, they had one year term.

Commissioner Stuart:

The one year term. So now you're both the most elected and the longest serving, which is which is combined. So I appreciate you doing that. I want to thank our listeners for taking a few moments of their time today and the first of our eight podcasts.

Please listen to some great discussions with our past mayors, our community leaders and those who have shaped Orlando. That's it for episode one. Please look for discussions with our history makers on this podcast channel. I'm your host, Orlando City Commissioner Robert Stuart. And I appreciate you listening. Let's remember to value our past, learn from it and make our future even brighter than ever. Thank you.

Episode 2 - Orange County Mayor Jerry Demings

In this episode, Commissioner Stuart talks with former Orlando Police Chief and Orange County Mayor Jerry Demings about his rise to leadership in Central Florida and his early life in Orlando.

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Commissioner Robert Stuart:

Hi, this is Orlando City Commissioner Robert Stuart. Very soon I'll be retiring from my position after 20 years of service to the citizens of Orlando, but before I retire, I want to leave a gift of history. I've had the wonderful opportunity to interact with so many people that have had such an impact on our city and how it's grown and how it's developed. Please join me on this audio journey as we meet these very interesting and influential people.

Commissioner Stuart:

Thank you for joining us again today with Orlando history makers. I'm your host Orlando City Council member Robert Stuart asking for just a few minutes of your time as we learn what makes our city and community so exciting and vibrant. It's my intent to bring some of the great stories of Orlando's history to life to look at the impact of these events and the people and to create an interest in our very exciting history.

Commissioner Stuart:

Once again today we have one of my favorite people and a dedicated public servant Orange County Mayor Jerry Demings. There's much I can say about my friend Jerry Mayor Demings. I apologize but if allow me just a few minutes. I may call you Jerry every now and then if it's okay. Mayor Demings is from Orlando's west side a product of Orlando, has served as a police officer for the city of Orlando eventually become Orlando's first black police chief, then public safety director for Orange County, elected twice as sheriff of Orange County (elected three times three times sorry as sheriff of Orange County), and then elected twice as Mayor of Orange County. That's a lot of dedicated public service. Mayor thank you for joining me today and to top it off you've become a best-selling author with your new book entitled “Believe, Faith and Truth and the Courage to Lead.” Mayor how do you sleep?

Mayor Jerry Demings:

(Laughs) Well, at night. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Before we begin, you're a native of Orlando just a few years younger than me take a few minutes and share about your life growing up in Orlando. 

Mayor Demings:

Well, I am really the first generation of my family to have been born and raised here within Orlando. My mother and father moved here from other places. My father was born in Alabama, in southern Alabama in Crenshaw County in the city of Luverne and ultimately he came here at 17 years old to start a new life in 1939. He met my mom and they got married in 1944. My mother was from North Florida from Gaston County in a small rural tobacco growing community called Havana Florida. 

Commissioner Stuart:

I know what that is. My mom was born in Greenville and raised in Madison. 

Mayor Demings:

Okay, I know the area well and so that couple had five children and I'm the youngest of the five but by just minutes because I have an older twin brother. My twin brother is about 30 minutes older than I am. His name is Terry, I'm Jerry and we had three older siblings. We had an older sister, an older brother and then a second sister as well and two of my siblings have gone on with glory. But there are three of us left and so I grew up in West Orlando to two blue-collar workers who gave us a lot of encouragement to get a good education, And then that would be the leveler for us to be able to become whatever we chose to become. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Now you went to Jones High School? 

Mayor Demings:

I'm a Jones High School Fighting Tiger Graduate. 

Commissioner Stuart:

I'm an Edgewater Eagle and I cannot believe that. 

Mayor Demings:

Yes, so I still wear my last ring to this day from Jones High School. I've graduated from a number of other institutions at this point but that was my foundation and I will never forget that foundation. I was very active in high school and sports and 

Commissioner Stuart:

What did you play?

Mayor Demings:

I played football, basketball, ran track and even played soccer at Jones High School for a couple of years, But I was involved in the future physicians of America Club at Jones High School. I was involved in student government. I was elected the vice president of my class and we were members of the Honor Society and that set the stage really for me, the education that I got at Jones High School and really from Orange County Public Schools. I went to Memorial Junior High School and to Richmond High Elementary School and ultimately went to Florida State University and graduated. 

Commissioner Stuart:

I know, I know…

Mayor Demings:

I had to bring it up.

Commissioner Stuart:

And you rub it in all the time with me. 

Mayor Demings:

Yes sir and so you know I was fortunate. My twin brother and I were roommates in college. I got my associate's degree from Florida State University. I got a bachelor's in finance from Florida State University. Graduated in 1980 from Florida State and moved back to Orlando. Took a job as an accountant working in the private sector for about a year but I always had an interest in law enforcement. While in college I was heavily recruited by many of the federal agencies to become a federal agent. They were looking for people with degrees in finance and accounting to do white collar types of investigations.

When I applied to the FBI. They went into a hiring freeze. I pursued other federal law enforcement jobs but in 1980 there was a hiring freeze. So I went to work as an accountant to help take care of my family and went to the Orlando Police Department. Obviously I got hired, intended to only stay one year and I ended up staying 21 years with the Orlando Police Department and held every rank. Went from police officer patrolling the streets of Orlando to various other ranks, senior positions. I was commander of the special teams, the SWAT and the hostage negotiation and emergency response teams all reported to me. I was deputy chief of investigations when I got appointed as chief of police in Orlando in 1998. 

Commissioner Stuart:

We got to know each other which you may not remember. 

Mayor Demings:

When I stopped you on the side of the road? 

Commissioner Stuart:

Yeah he did and I was a little bit upset about that?! There was a shooting over at the entry, I'm trying to think of the building but the one at Orange Avenue. And our church got involved with you and we became a hub for the families to come to our church and then our church provided resources and food for the guys especially the first responders and through a guy named Tommy Deal. So Tommy was a chaplain at the time. That's how you and I got to know each other and then come later on we actually have to be friends which is drives me crazy. 

Mayor Demings:

Yeah I was involved in my career numerous barricaded gunman hostage situations, shootings, other crises within the Orlando Police Department and the City of Orlando. I should say and that kind of set me up to lead the agency you know. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Yeah perfect. 

Mayor Demings:

In 1998 when I was appointed Chief of Police I was appointed by Glenda Hood. Glenda  Hood, the only woman to have served as mayor of the city of Orlando. At this point, here we are in 2025 and she appointed me as chief of police. I was 39 years old at the time and here we are now pushing towards 67 years old and what a joy it was to be able to serve my community and serve my police department and that set the stage for where I am today. 

Commissioner Stuart:

I know it made your mom proud. 

Mayor Demings:

Yeah my mom was alive she was able to see me sworn in as the 34th Orlando chief of police you know the rest of the story. My wife served as the 36th Orlando chief of police. 

Commissioner Stuart:

I know. 

Mayor Demings:

That's another historical fact. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Yeah, I was in office when she got it and it was it was wonderful, it was a great joy to work with your wife. But that's I went from getting elected in 2005 and so she comes in and 2007 I think. 

Mayor Demings:

That's correct as chief of police she was appointed the first and only woman so far to have served as Chief of Police in Orlando in 2007. She retired after 27 years with the City of Orlando Police Department in 2011 and went on to run for Congress. Obviously she eventually was elected and served in the United States House of Representatives for three terms and during the period that I was the 28th elected sheriff she was the 36th appointed chief of police in Orlando the only such couple in America where the two top cops were married to each other and the only couple in America where each of us has served as chief of police of a major city. 

Commissioner Stuart:

You're the only person I've ever known who've actually been written up by the National Enquirer. 

Mayor Demings:

Yes. 

Commissioner Stuart:

So I don't want to let you know that I don't know many people have done that but they wrote a pretty good article about you guys being top cops. 

Mayor Demings:

Yes and that article came out in January of 2009 and it was on page 59 of the National Enquirer when friends of ours said you won't believe it the two of you are in the National Enquirer. And the headline was something like the dynamic duo crime fighting duo of Val and Jerry Demings. So initially we thought it was going to be you know one of those types of very critical articles. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Or you met an alien of some sort. 

Mayor Demings:

Yes and you know the scandalous articles is what the National Enquirer is best known for but it was actually a good article it was complimentary of our mutual law enforcement careers and that was one of many national articles that was written over the decades about our community service and yeah so what a humbling experience it was. 

Commissioner Stuart:

All right well some people as we've mentioned before you have a twin brother you're the youngest of the twins. I have a twin sister, I'm the youngest of the twins when people ask me in the rank of our family I tell them, “I'm tied with fourth,” but actually technically the fifth. But your family plays a really important role in your legacy. Take a moment just share some thoughts that what you expressed in your book about the role of family and the faith and what that means in terms of your impact in community life. 

Mayor Demings:

My parents were both born in 1922, Dad lived until 2023 so he was about 101 years old. My mom died in 2017, she was died just prior to turning 96 years of age. But those two blue collar workers came from a Jim Crow era in which laws really did not favor them. Mom made certain that we went to church, that Terry and I were involved in the Boy Scouts, and I'll kind of explain why my mom was so focused on us getting an education and getting involved in a positive environments. My oldest siblings, my oldest sister was the first in our family to go to college and she went to a historically black college and University in Knoxville Tennessee. She graduated with a degree in accounting and business. went on to graduate school. My second oldest sibling, my brother graduated from high school got in trouble with the law left and went to New Jersey, came back found himself addicted to heroin in 1967 or 1968, lived a better part of the remainder of his life addicted to some substance. There's some time in jail and prison, but mom, because he was 10 years older than Terry and I, my mother wanted to make certain that we didn't make the same mistakes that my brother made. My brother was academically a great student but got caught up in a movement of protests and other things and unfortunately when he went to Newark, New Jersey. He wasn't prepared for a big city with a lot of drugs and just took control of his life. So he died at the age of 50. But my oldest sister, when Terry and I came along and went to college, she would she had graduated from college, she was 11 years older and she helped us financially. She got a good job, she went to work for Southern Bell at that time, the telephone company, and she was a yellow page salesperson. She made a good living and she was able to help us out my other sister, Sandra. She was nine years older than us and she graduated from college at graduated from high school at 18, went to nursing school got a became a licensed practical nurse spent a full career in nursing. She married a Vietnam veteran, he went to the Postal Service after he got out of the military, they lived a comfortable life in Rochester, New York, moved back to Orlando. And then there was just Terry and I. Terry's a businessman here, now successful businessman, ironically he majored in criminology in school at Florida State University.

Commissioner Stuart:

And you did not. 

Mayor Demings:

And I did not. I majored it in business and I ended up spending most of my career in law enforcement about 37 plus years of my now 44 plus year career was spent in law enforcement. But being of service, mom taught us to the fear God but to also have faith. She taught us to believe in God, go to church, raise our families, take care of them, to be honest, to have humility, to walk humbly and not brag about whatever accomplishments you have. So she taught us, that she taught us, to believe in ourselves and, so hence the title of my book is, “Believe, Faith, Truth and the Courage to Lead.” Mom taught us to believe in ourselves, and believe in God and that has stuck with me throughout my professional career and that's what we have taught our children now and we're teaching our children's children. We have five grandchildren, four girls one boy.

Commissioner Stuart:

Exactly the same with mine. 

Commissioner Stuart:

They're all here so it is great number five I'm number five only by hair. And you got five grandchildren for one I got five grandchildren four and one. Yes and it's... my family it's grown up very similar in that they came from a rural area mom was born in 1924 moved here at 22 and my mom married a guy who was 19 years older than her. The whole story behind that and I just thought, this is not my interview, but there's some things and, in terms of faith and belief and the desire to have your kids have a better life than you it just came out of that kind of generation. And when I read through your book is that same kind of commitment to making sure that there was a better life for you, but it had to come, not because of what you gain but because of how you felt about yourself. And what you can gain personally in terms of belief and faith anyway, I'm not gonna bore you all that. 

Mayor Demings:

You're precisely right. It was discipline, my parents believed in discipline. But they believed that you could dream big, as well, and they taught us to reach for the stars. I got to wear four stars as chief of police and as sheriff my wife got to wear four stars. Her background very similar to mine, two blue collar parents, she grew up in Jacksonville, we met in the 80s and got married and raised our family here and so you know the history is still being written. But that background that we have, you know of years of being the my grandparents were born in the 1890s and I never got to know my grandfather's they both had died by the time I was born in the late 50s, but I got to know both of my grandmother's. One was born in 1894 the other born in 1896 and, so my great grandparents were born in the 1860s just after the Emancipation Proclamation was signed. But my great great grandparents were enslaved and so throughout the years I had opportunity to sit with my grandmothers. While they were born free, it was so close to being enslaved just hearing the history lessons that they talked about. I was like a sponge as a kid I soaked up what they said and what it was like for them to live and one of my grandmothers she died in 1998, just before I was appointed chief of police, and because she was born at the end of one century, she lived completely through another and she was almost about a year and a half away from living into the third century.

Commissioner Stuart:

So cool. How cool is that? Yes that's so cool. My great grandfather was a the police chief in Moultrie. Georgia. 

Mayor Demings:

Oh wow 

Commissioner Stuart:

So it is the stories, that we were told he ended up dying as a gunshot wound. And what occurred was he his gun fell on the ground discharged and hit him and eventually he passed away as a result of it, But we have it that that connection and that kind of rural south area. And but I think something comes out of that area that says we want to make a better life. Okay, we're gonna jump along because I appreciate your time so much has happened since you've been in public service gone from Orlando's gone from a sleepy town to really a world-class leader, the growth of downtown, the creation of the venues, the growth of the convention center, the International Airport, just a few. When you reflect on your time, 30, 40 years of service to here, what do you remember most fondly?

Mayor Demings:

I have different fond memories but one that stands out during my tenure as a police officer with Orlando I had the opportunity to meet Rosa Parks.

Commissioner Stuart:

Oh that's cool 

Mayor Demings:

She was aged at the time but of course we all know the history of Rosa Parks in the Civil Rights Movement. And I had the opportunity to meet many of the Civil Rights legends over time. I've had the opportunity to meet Kings and Queens, presidents of the United States going back to Gerald Ford. I've had the opportunity to have one-on-one conversations with every one of them about various things and some to this day if they are in this area they will call me.

Commissioner Stuart:

Thats so cool.

Mayor Demings:

And one of the coolest things I remember is when my dad was about a hundred years old, he was on a long-term care facility, and former president Bill Clinton was in town. And his travel assistant contacted my office and the former president asked if I was available to meet him for dinner. I had a busy schedule that day and by the time we got back to him his plans had shifted slightly. But I was visiting with my father in a long-term care facility and Bill Clinton called me on the phone and I told him I said. “Listen, I'm sitting here with my dad visiting my father, he's in a long-term care facility.”He said. “Put him on the phone.” So here's my dad, at a hundred years old, I put him on the phone with Bill Clinton and Bill Clinton spoke to my father like he had known him forever. And it was kind of surreal to sit there and say dad you know you just talked to the former president of the United States. And he was his mental faculties were still pretty good so he was able to comprehend what he had just experienced. And so it's those types of things in my career that had I not been in the various positions I'm in now that would never have happened. I was mayor of Orange County when I got that particular phone call from Bill Clinton, so my father lived long enough to see me sworn in as police chief sheriff, and mayor, and mom lived long enough to see me sworn in as police chief, and sheriff. And for our family, what a legacy that we created for these two blue collar workers from the south to be able to see their children really reach the point where they were able to realize their dreams for their children, for their five children, and that is one of the things I think one of the most humbling experiences I've had is that we paid it forward. We honor our parents, we paid it forward by working hard and they got to see it.

Commissioner Stuart:

That's so cool. Yeah okay so let's talk about some projects around Central Florida. What are the ones someone's you've been involved in that that you're the most proud of?

Mayor Demings:

There are many but one I will talk about since I've been mayor, we have created Orange County's first locally controlled housing trust fund to help stimulate the building of affordable and workforce housing in our community. Right now, of course, we've lived through a global pandemic and housing affordability is a challenge the residents of Orange County. By referendum last year approved a measure that now requires in perpetuity for Orange County to have a housing trust fund. Whatever board of County Commission will be serving at the time gets to choose whether or not they can afford it financially but we made a commitment during my tenure to commit a hundred and sixty million dollars over ten years to stimulate the building of affordable housing within our community, and that addresses a 30,000 unit deficit of housing affordable housing units. When I came into office and when I leave office next year in December 2026 we will have closed that gap hopefully to the point where we no longer have a deficit. So that's a legacy project that we have here. We have committed to work with the City of Orlando to expanding Camping World Stadium with a 400 million dollar commitment, to doing upgrades with the technology at the Kia Center, whether NBA Orlando Magic plays to the tune of about 226 million dollars. We will be expanding the Orange County Convention Center with an investment of 560 million dollars. That project will not be completed until I have left office but we set the stage to ensure that our Convention Center remains competitive after my tenure. Then we have created the opportunity for improvements in our education system. We are investing dollars through Career Source of Central Florida, investing dollars with the Orange County Public Schools ensure that our children can continue to have access to a quality education. We moved the needle with health care services we brought on Dr. Pino, who was the Health Services Director for the Florida State Health Department at Orange County, who now works for us. He's the former director of Orange County's Health Services Department. Now where we have primary care access network clinics around the county. And we are investing in prevention related services for the mentally ill for those who suffer with different substance disorders. We are closing the gap we identified that we had a 49 million dollar annual gap in the continuum of services for those who suffer with mental illness and substance or behavioral disorders. We annually now or have increased Orange County's commitment by over 10 million dollars annually to close that gap we're dealing with the rising homelessness challenges that we have as a county we are contributing additional dollars. Now each year to address homelessness services we're mandated by the state to have a plan of action we were working on this before the state mandate came out. We're working in partnership with the City of Orlando, with other nonprofits around our community, to take care of the least of those within our community. We're not just creating the economic impact from tourism which today is a 92.5 billion dollar industry but we're also taking care of those who cannot take care of themselves. And, so that's a living legacy that we will leave behind. As we continue to have our central receiving center that law enforcement can take persons who need mental health treatment, who commit minor violations of law rather than take them to jail, they take them to get treatment. And by treatment we're able to make those individuals more healthy more self-reliant in a self-indulgent world to help take care of themselves. We've reduced the number of persons who are repeat offenders who come into our jail as a result of that. Annually we save tens of millions of dollars about leading with treatment as opposed to just dealing with it from a law enforcement and incarceration perspective/ We're investing money on the front end so we have numerous challenges transportation. I've been an advocate for a dedicated funding source to move the needle on a multi-modal transportation system to expand what we have now with SunRail, we've had ballot initiative, it has not passed but I remain focused on that trying to…

Commissioner Stuart:

Now wait a second I only ask for a couple, I didn't ask for...

Mayor Demings:

I go on all day 

Commissioner Stuart:

You need to lighten up a little bit 

Mayor Demings:

Hey, we are focused we get things done.

Commissioner Stuart:

Okay, well now that you said all that legacy is interesting word and I've had a chance to read your book and hear some of those words from you through the book. But you have this unique privilege, I like Jerry so I'm gonna say this, you get to be a living legacy. Because of what's occurred when you reflect around legacy and share some of those guiding words of thoughts what are your thoughts for the next generation of leaders

Mayor Demings:

The next generation of leaders will only be successful if we who are currently in leadership roles live help to lift them up. We, who are currently serving are standing on the shoulders of those civil rights giants and others who were before us. The group who are the next generation of leaders, who are behind us, just like we've been successful because we start stood on the shoulders of others, they can only be successful if we help them if they stand on our shoulders. And they understand that “they drink from wells they did not dig, they are able to get shade from trees they did not plant,” And as a result of that, I believe the future is bright our children are active in service to our community. I believe the most humbling thing that any human being can experience is if they commit themselves to a life of service. We just happen to be public servants, but people can serve others through different walks of life. And in spite of sometimes focusing on the differences between us, we should focus more on what we have in common and regardless of a person's ethnicity, gender, ethnic heritage, at the end of the day, we are more like than not. I believe that we live in the greatest country in the world that country that was founded on Christian principles has served our country well. You know that made us the United States of America one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. It is that nation that makes us a great nation even though right now the geopolitical headwinds are divisive. A nation divided cannot survive and so I'm concerned about the future of our nation if we do not come back together, if we don't elect leaders, if we do not focus on where we can unify around common goals and issues. Is that kind of legacy that I hope to transfer to my children and transfer to other children. My children are all adults but they are very active and so it's a life of service that I hope that this next generation understands. It's not just about them, it's bigger than them, it's an opportunity to make the world a better place around them. And so I firmly believe that every one of us has an opportunity to participate in writing the narrative of what the future will hold if we believe, if we get involved in our community. So I would encourage the next generation, young adults, to find a way to find your passion but also never forget your responsibility to serve others. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Well, thank you. If you want to know more about Mayor Jerry Demings or his life here in Central Florida, take a moment to download his new book, Believe, Faith Truth and the Courage to Lead.” You can also hear more about Jerry's background in the oral history of myFloridaHistory.org, OrlandoMemory.org, both of those are available. And, Jerry, you even have your own Wikipedia page. So if you want to know the details you can go to his own page. I don't have one but there's a guy named Robert Stuart, but he happened to be a member of Parliament. He's got one but not me.

Mayor Demings:

By the way I didn't put up that Wikipedia page. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Oh yeah yeah 

Mayor Demings:

Some things on there, you don't believe.

Commissioner Stuart:

But I hope you get to know my friend Jerry and get inspired by his life here in Central Florida. Mayor Demings, thank you.

Mayor Demings:

Thank you.

Commissioner Stuart:

I'm so honored to have you sent a time with you and speak going to have behalf of our entire community, let me express my personal gratitude for your leadership our city and our entire community would not be what it is today without you, so thank you.

Mayor Demings:

Let me also thank you for your leadership, for having the courage to stand up and become an elected official. You've done a marvelous job for a couple of decades now and I know you're gonna be retiring and going to the next phase but “muchos gracias” and “merci beaucoup.”

Commissioner Stuart:

But I may have to actually go work for the county so say nice things about me. 

Mayor Demings:

Come on over here.

Commissioner Stuart:

I also want to thank our listeners for taking a few minutes out of your time with us today that's it for now please look for discussions with Orlando History Makers on this Podcast Channel. I'm your host, Orlando City Commissioner Robert Stuart and I appreciate you listening. Remember this, “Let's value our past, learn from it and make our future brighter than ever,” thank you.

Episode 3 - former Orlando Mayor Glenda Hood

In this episode, former Orlando Mayor Glenda Hood talks with Commissioner Stuart about her time as Orlando’s mayor and her commitment to help cities throughout Florida and the Nation.

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Read the transcript:

Orlando Commissioner Robert Stuart:

Thank you for joining us today with Orlando History Makers. I'm your host Orlando City Council member Robert Stuart asking for just a few minutes of your time as we learn what makes our city and our community so exciting and vibrant. It's my intent to bring some of the great stories of Orlando's history to life, to look at the impact of these events and the people and to create an interest in our very own exciting history. Today we are joined by another one of my favorite people, former mayor of Orlando, Glenda Hood. Mayor, thank you for joining us.

Former Orlando Mayor Glenda Hood:

Thank you. Glad to be with you. 

Commissioner Stuart:

There's so much I can say about introducing you. But let's start by the fact that you're my friend. And I'm grateful for that. Mayor Hood served as a 31st Mayor of Orlando. Prior to that, she was a volunteer chair of several committee committees, ran for city council and served there until she was first elected mayor in 1993. I think could be 92 or 93. 

Mayor Hood:

I think it was 92. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Okay. Maybe you got in on sworn in on that. 

Mayor Hood:

Yes, probably. 

Commissioner Stuart:

She was elected to serve as selected to serve as Florida's Secretary of State by Governor Jeb Bush in 2002. She also the Past President of Florida League of Cities, which I've had the honor of serving on the board there. And you have a wonderful reputation with them, as well as the Past President of the National League of Cities. She is committed to serving cities and public administration. There's so much more. But for details about Mayor Hood's accomplishments, there is plenty of information at the historycenter.org, as well as Orlandolandtrust.org, Orlando memory.org. Mayor Hood is a wonderful example of a life of public service. But that's enough for now. Thank you for joining us again. I appreciate it. Now before we begin, just share a few minutes about your early life and how you came into leadership in the city of Orlando. 

Mayor Hood:

Sure, I'm glad to. Well, I was born and raised in Orlando. My father had a retail store in downtown Orlando. So I spent a lot of time kind of growing up and getting to know the community, went to Cathedral School, which was right across from Lake Eola and Lake Eola Park was really our playground in so many ways. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Now St. James. 

Mayor Hood:

Well, no, actually, there's an office building where Cathedral School was, yes. St. James is on the other side of the lake.

Commissioner Stuart:

Okay.

Mayor Hood:

So this was on the south side of the lake. And so, you know, I can I have wonderful memories of going over to the then Albertson public library and the children's section was in the downstairs. So walking down those stairs to the basement and checking out all my favorite books or just walking around downtown and I grew up out on Big Lake Conway. So I would ride the bus with my grandmother into downtown on Saturdays and we'd go to the movies and go to the old Morrison's cafeteria and go to all the five and dime stores. So I loved Orlando and I loved the life of the city. So as I became an adult and came back to the community after college, I got involved in things I volunteered and got involved in the volunteer service bureau, the Junior League. I was asked to serve on the board of the Orlando Chamber of Commerce. And so a lot of activity and engagement that continued my learning process about the community. And then I was privileged to be a part of one of the first classes of leadership Orlando. And at the time, we had projects that we worked on and the project that I was assigned to do was city planning. And so I was fascinated by that the fact that cities actually plan how they're going to develop and grow over time.

Commissioner Stuart:

You don't think about that growing up.

Mayor Hood:

No, you don't think about that at all. And so I got to meet a lot of people in city government that way. And I learned that Orlando was really one of the first cities in the state to have a planning department. And then the county followed suit, not too long after that, I guess. So that was kind of how I got involved. And then by my volunteering, saying I wanted to learn more through different organizations and being involved in the business community. And I had a small business that I had created at the time, doing translation and interpretation work because I was fluent in Spanish. 

Commissioner Stuart:

You had a degree in Spanish?

Mayor Hood:

Yes. And so we were just starting to see an influx of Spanish speaking individuals come into our community. So people would ask me voluntarily to do some interpreting for them. And I thought, well, I'll form a little business around this. So that's kind of how I got started in the business area. And then I had a lot of people in the community come to me and say, “Why don't you run for city council?” And it seemed like a natural extension of community service to me, because you know, I wanted to make my community better and continue to give. And I thought serving on city council was a perfect way to do that. And so I kind of very naively stood up and said, I'm running for city council. And I did. And I was elected three times. 

Commissioner Stuart:

So that's great. Yeah, that's great. It's similar to my story is that if you're engaged in the community, it just seems to be a natural that you want to continue to serve. 

Mayor Hood:

Absolutely. Right. And, you know, it's a community when we are born and raised in a community, and we think we know it so well. But we really don't know a lot of the inner workings and the behind the scenes aspects of it and, and how everything comes together. So that really helped me.

Commissioner Stuart:

I was driving up today and I drove over I-4 and I was thinking about our conversation coming up and I kept thinking myself, there are people that will drive on this that had no idea how this got here. They just are using it. And, and there's people in our community that know how things occurred, how they got there and why that's important to really the growth of our community as well as, as, you know, all those things that make our community great.

Mayor Hood:

Right.

Commissioner Stuart:

But some people just they just jump into the community and they forget that somebody had to think of this, somebody had to put it together, somebody had to make it happen. 

Mayor Hood:

Right. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And I'm honored to have you be part of that. 

Mayor Hood:

Well, you know, we've been very fortunate in this community because we've had good strong leadership that has the vision to see what can be in the future. And, you know, we've had that in government, and we've had that in the business community, and they've worked together. And I do a lot of work with the Urban Land Institute, a lot of consulting with them. And I go to communities all over the country and work with them on development or transportation issues. And some of those communities, the government and business sectors don't work well together. And so they're not advancing, they're not progressing, they're not bringing about things that are important to the people who live there on a 24-7 basis. And that's what's important to me, to make sure that citizens who live in those neighborhoods and know what's going on 24-7 in those neighborhoods, that they're able to be part of the process and help make those decisions. And I think you and I you know, feel the same way about that. And that's why, you know, when I was elected mayor, I made sure that people out there in the neighborhoods had an identity for their neighborhood, that they had a say in what their neighborhood needed, and that they could bring things about. That's why we put the matching grants program in place, things like that. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And we're celebrating the 30th year of that, congratulations. 

Mayor Hood:

Yes, yes, we're doing that and had a great celebration with so many of the neighbors that I hadn't seen in many years. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Well, I want to think of the work that you do, I think of community building that is very basic. And, and I've now served 20 years as a commissioner. And I will tell you that much of the things that we've accomplished were because our communities had identity, they had leadership, they knew kind of what they wanted, they also knew they were part of something bigger. And, and when they when that works together, you have a great community. 

Mayor Hood:

You do. And, you know, leadership lays the foundation for a lot of things that come about in the future. And I've always said, you can't be concerned with who's going to get the credit for things, because you have to plant those seeds, and you have to nourish them over time. And sometimes, the timing isn't perfect for things. And it takes, you know, some changing of mindsets for people. But if you believe in it, and you have purpose, and people come together, it'll happen. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Reminds me of a Bible verse from from Paul, where he says, “Some plant some water and some reap the benefits of it.” Yes. And I think that that's what real leadership is to look and see where you play in that role. 

Mayor Hood:

Right. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And, and because all you want to do is kind of further the community. Okay, now, I first got to know you when you were crazy enough to ask me to go take a youth baseball team to you Urayasu, Japan, our sister city in Urayasu, I guess they pronounce it Uraya City, was how they pronounce it. It was a wonderful experience. And one I will never forget, and I'm so honored that you allowed me to do that. But as we move forward in our story, how did you become the mayor of Orlando? So now you've, you're sitting on council…

Mayor Hood:

Right. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And the next thing you know, you become mayor. 

Mayor Hood:

Well, I was privileged to serve on city council for three terms halfway through my third four year term. Again, I had people in the community come to me and say, you need to run for mayor. You've got the experience, you've got the knowledge and Mayor Frederick was in office at the time. And I learned a lot from him. And he really mentored me in many ways. And he decided he was not going to run again. And so I once again stood up and raised my hand and said, you know, I'm willing to take that big step and serve as Mayor of the City of Orlando. And I was elected three times. And, you know, it's funny, I have to tell you a story. So the first day in office as mayor, I'm sitting there in the Mayor's Office. And of course, everyone's very attentive and bringing things in. Now I knew all the city staff. So I was very fortunate. And that helped tremendously. It wasn't like walking into a building and with people that I didn't know. But at the same time, I knew there needed to be some reorganization to be able to suit the vision and some of the goals that I had. But anyway, so I'm sitting there my first day in office and people are bringing things into me. And it was running through my mind. It's like I had never been there. I was like, what do I do now? And a good friend of mine actually came by the office and he said, “Okay, I want you to just lean back in your chair. And I'm gonna take a picture of your first day in office.” And so he did. And, you know, I just, you know, I was very privileged to be able to serve as Mayor of this city. And with lots of support of people in the neighborhoods, the business community, you know, those that were in city government, it, it was just a good time. It really was. 

Commissioner Stuart:

You have to be careful what you ask for because you may actually get it. 

Mayor Hood:

That's fine. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Okay, so much happened during your tenure. And I've just touched on a couple. But we have the planning for the New City Hall. The growth of downtown Orlando, I guess, you're in the City Hall, converting the Naval Train Center into Baldwin Park, high tech initiatives, neighborhood initiatives, so much more, as you reflect back on mayor more than 20 years ago. What do you remember most fondly? 

Mayor Hood:

Well, I'll tell you what was really important to me. It was again, getting people involved in city government, having a voice that had not had a voice before. So making sure that citizen engagement was first and foremost. And we made sure that each neighborhood had an identity. So that was something that I really enjoyed going out into the neighborhood, meeting people, really helping them work through how they would come to City Council and ask for things how they would, you know, lobby, how they could get resources for their neighborhoods, how they could work with other organizations. So that that was very important to me. And I think probably I'll always be known as kind of the neighborhood mayor in many ways.

Commissioner Stuart:

 Which is great by the way.

Mayor Hood:

Yeah. And speaking of neighborhoods, first year in office, in fact, I hadn't been in office very long. And all of a sudden, we go through the base reuse and closure process, every naval recruit had come to Orlando for their basic training. And it was a big economic boost for the community. But we made it through the first base reuse and closure process. And in the second one, the decision was made, a bad one, in my opinion, that all the new recruits would go to Michigan instead of to Orlando, which really didn't make too much sense because it gets cold in Michigan in the wintertime. But be it as it may, we had four parcels of property, the largest being what is now Baldwin Park, available. And so we had to go through a very long, it was actually a six to seven year process to turn that former Naval Training Center property into something different. And I was convinced that it needed to be a neighborhood and it needed to be able to blend with all the surrounding neighborhoods that needed to have parks that needed to have schools needed to have a little village center. And so it was a long and arduous process. And I spent a lot of time in Washington, DC, working with the Navy, lobbying them, making sure that we were able to move forward in the way that the community wanted. We put together a community commission that represented every aspect of the community, whether it was transportation or whether it was housing, the nonprofit sector, etc. And they really made the decision and built the vision for what is now Baldwin Park. So I'm very proud of that. And that's really one of the most ambitious economic development projects that the city's ever undertaken. We received all kinds of accolades and awards, whether it was from the Urban Land Institute or National League of Cities for the planning that went into it and what we brought about. And it continues to be a very vibrant neighborhood in our city. And what was interesting, we really thought it would be a destination for people moving into the City of Orlando. It became a relocation neighborhood for people. People loved what they saw. They love the fact that the new urbanism components were incorporated into it the way the streets were designed, the way housing was put in place. And so a lot of people moved from their neighborhood into Baldwin Park, and it continues to be a real asset for us, I think. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Well, and I took over or became a commissioner in 2006. So in 2006, there's only a small portion of Baldwin Park built out.

Mayor Hood:

Correct. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Entirely in my district, but the entire planning was there. 

Mayor Hood:

Right. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And it really was the first time that a city had undertaken that kind of development. 

Mayor Hood:

Yes. 

Commissioner Stuart:

All the rest of the developments around the world, and the guys that came from (City of) Celebration went there. We're all done by private property owners. 

Mayor Hood:

Right. 

Commissioner Stuart:

The first time the city took engagement. And then, and then you end up this next step of, well, now we have Lake Nona. And you're engaged in that process, So.

Mayor Hood:

Oh, yes, that was a huge annexation process that we went through and put, you know, a joint planning agreement in place with Orange County at the time, which allowed us to annex all that property contiguous to the international airport. And, you know, Lake Nona again, is a great success trade, but we increased the size of the city by 50% with that annexation. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Absolutely, Yes.

Mayor Hood:

And, you know, getting back to Baldwin Park, and you were talking about celebration and some of these other communities that are brought about. One thing we were certain we were going to do is we were going to make sure that the new development, the neighborhood integrated into all the surrounding neighborhoods, as I said before, that it wasn't like celebration where it's a destination, and you really have to get in your car to go someplace. Baldwin Park, Lake Nona is becoming this way. You can go on bike trails, you can hike, you can, you know, have public transportation to get places instead of being isolated on a little island. 

Commissioner Stuart:

One of the challenges I have, because you like your area in Lancaster and Downtown and College Park, that you wanted much of the feel of those areas,

Mayor Hood:

Right, right.

Commissioner Stuart:

In Baldwin. And you had the benefit of kind of having a clean slate to do what you want to do. Retrofitting Lancaster or College Park is very difficult in terms of bike trails and those kinds of things. But they developed their own kind of city center and their own kind of by accident, but organically, here, at Baldwin trying to kind of had to feel this organic, but you could do some things structurally that kind of helped that I remember.

Mayor Hood:

Right.

Commissioner Stuart:

I remember when they were starting to build it, and they took up all this stuff, and there was a lot of mitigation and getting some, there was this mountain of concrete that was just been accumulated, right? And it must have been 100 feet, 200 feet tall, just in the middle of it, and it eventually got used for aggregate and for the roads. But I can remember driving by for several months going, there's a base that has a mountain in it. 

Mayor Hood:

Yeah. Well, and you're you're right, we use some really different techniques by grinding all that old concrete up and using it for the foundation for a lot of the development that took place. But yeah, the planning process took that six or seven years, and then it slowly developed over time. And you've been able to see that and be part of that process and decision making as well. 

Commissioner Stuart:

It's probably taken 15 years to build out. 

Mayor Hood:

Yeah, yeah. 

Commissioner Stuart:

I think there's only one major parcel not yet built out there.

Mayor Hood:

Mhmm, yeah. 

Commissioner Stuart:

But the feeling is just such a neat feeling over there, because they did buy into the neighborhood feeling. 

Mayor Hood:

Yes. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And, and you need to be congratulated for that, because that doesn't happen by accident. Just somebody has to step up and say, this is, “When it's all over guys, this needs to be a neighborhood.”

Mayor Hood:

Well, and believe me, it wasn't always easy. And there was a lot of controversy along the way. But we had many, many public meetings. In fact, I think if you count the number of public meetings we had, it's almost 250, as we were going through that planning process. And I was convinced, as I've always been, that if you allow people to express their thoughts and opinions, you don't have to agree. And you can up front say, you know, we want to hear what you have to say. But in the end, we may not go that direction. That's all people want, they want to be heard. And so, as I said, it wasn't always easy. The Navy wasn't always easy to deal with and the decision making. The joke was, I would take my little suitcase when I was up there lobbying for the resources we needed in Washington, DC. And I'd go into the Pentagon pulling my suitcase and walk into the office of the person I was dealing with and say, “I'm staying until we get the right answer.” And so, you know, you have to keep a little sense of humor as you're going through some of these very stressful decision making times. 

Commissioner Stuart:

That's perfect. Okay, so now, Baldwin Park is a big project. Neighborhoods are a big project. 

Mayor Hood:

Yes. Well, there's some other things. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Is there anything that's kind of, share some more with me, because I'd like to hear a little bit more behind the behind the curtain.

Mayor Hood:

Sure. Well, you know, I could see that we were becoming a real international city and we had the opportunity to host World Cup and Olympic soccer. And so I was determined that we were going to benefit from that just not as, you know, becoming a sports venue, but business wise. And so I said, okay, we're going to take business delegations to the countries that are bringing people here for these soccer matches. And we're going to find business opportunities. And we indeed did. We were able to have new businesses established as a result of those partnerships that were brought about. So we did that. We also worked with the Economic Development Commission, it was called that at the time, as well as the chamber to make sure that the businesses did benefit in every way. And that as we were becoming more international, and certainly all the international flights coming into our community, that people saw not just that we were someplace for recreation and attractions and fun, but we also were serious about business. So that was one thing that I really focused on. We had a major parks initiative, I wanted to make sure that not only were the parks that were existing refurbished, and I know we're going through that process again, because that needs to happen over and over in a city, but that we have little pocket parks and neighborhoods where people could go and enjoy themselves. And then we developed some other larger parks as well. And I wanted to make sure that each neighborhood had close access to green space and parks and trails. So we started that initiative as well. And then the arts. The arts is an economic development generator for a community.

Commissioner Stuart:

Well, let me interrupt you. I've had the honor again of being part of what you started, especially with the Menello. And it is such a neat place. People don't, I mean, Orlando has got some really neat things going on with it. But they see this and go, "Gosh, that's kind of interesting." Well, no, it's like really a cool thing. I mean, you need to go over there. And between that and the culmination of Loch Haven Park, we have found that as much as sports can connect with business, 

Mayor Hood:

Arts can too.

Commissioner Stuart:

You led the example of arts can also connect with business. 

Mayor Hood:

Right, right. And I think, you know, it was a time in our community where people didn't step up and support the arts as much as they do now. Because, again, that's changing a mindset. We had to understand that it was an economic generator, that it was important for people visiting our community as well as enhanced educational opportunities within our own community. So yeah, and you're talking about some behind the scenes stories with the Menello Museum. Michael and Marilyn Menello came into my office one day and knew that because I'd been president of Florida League of Cities and had connections in Tallahassee, they said, "Would you help us find the right people to talk to in Tallahassee because we want to give our collection to the state?" I came home that night and I thought, "There is no way we are going to let this beautiful folk art collection leave our community." So I'm not going to help them find someone in Tallahassee. We're going to keep it right here. And within a matter of months, thanks to our wonderful city folks, we found a location. We did all the work to make it into a little gem of a museum. And I hope more and more people will go and visit because it is a wonderful museum. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And behind the curtains is that we are raising money to expand the museum,

Mayor Hood:

Yes, yes.

Commissioner Stuart:

Which we're thrilled about doing. We want to do that. And I think it's just another way of saying that if you're going to build a city, you've got to build it with arts. Mayor Dyer has continued that. 

Mayor Hood:

Right. He has. And I'm so grateful that he has. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And your work with Dr. Phillips Center and the Performing Arts, that led to this wonderful world class building we have. 

Mayor Hood:

So you may not know the backstory there. But I invited an Urban Land Institute panel to come to Orlando because these advisory panels come to communities. Like I said, I work on these now and share a lot of them around the country. But had this panel come to Orlando because I wanted them to look at where would be the best place for us to really promote the arts in downtown and ultimately sometime in the future build a new performing arts center because we'd really outgrown the old municipal auditorium, Bob Carr.

Commissioner Stuart:

But when you and I were growing up, it was a Muni-Aud. 

Mayor Hood:

Yes, it was. It was. I did a huge piano recital there. That's where I met my now husband. 

Commissioner Stuart:

That's where I graduated from high school.

Mayor Hood:

I did too! So a lot of memories there and great memories. But the community was growing and we needed something bigger. So the panel recommended a site downtown for a performing arts center. Here we are 20 plus years later. That performing arts center is sitting right there where that panel recommended. And downtown, they recommended that we could really help our downtown grow and become more lively with the arts. And certainly we're continuing to do that and partnering with our church community and partnering with nonprofits and the business community. So, again, you have to be patient. We couldn't build it overnight, but we have a beautiful facility in place now. 

Commissioner Stuart:

I've shared it on many occasions that the arts are such a difference. And there are many things I like. And I would go across the country to go see them. But in a community, you have to say that the arts as a part of our community has to celebrate all kinds of arts so that everybody's engaged somewhere, whether it's performance art or display art or the growth of the fringe is a good example.

Mayor Hood:

Well, you know, I would always say that art is not just a painting on the wall or a performance on a stage. It's how we design our communities. It's how we, you know, put things in place in our neighborhoods. There's art all around us if you think about it. I mean, whether it's cars or furniture or landscape design, that's all art. And culture is who we are as people and how we celebrate our differences and come together around those differences. 

Commissioner Stuart:

It really does define a community. 

Mayor Hood:

Yeah, it does. 

Commissioner Stuart:

You're exactly right. Yeah. Okay, so we've had some pretty colorful leaders in our community and you've had a chance to deal with some. 

Mayor Hood:

I'm not sure what you're referring to. 

Commissioner Stuart:

I will tell you this. Let me jump to it. In some of the biography stuff that you've done and you've done an oral history, which is, by the way, just wonderful. And the first part of it is just about you and where you came and what happened. And then the second section, which I thought was great, was who the people you met as mayor and the conversation you had with Margaret Thatcher, of all people. And I'm thinking to myself, that's like really cool. 

Mayor Hood:

It was. It's funny. I was just looking at some pictures from the time that Margaret Thatcher came here to visit. So, yeah, again, that was part of making sure that people realized that Orlando was on the map, not just within our country and within our state, but internationally as well. So we were fortunate to be able to have some pretty prominent people come to the community. 

Commissioner Stuart:

I'll tell you what you did. And I have the honor of knowing Mayor Langford. It shouldn't be so frank. But knowing Mayor Langford, knowing Mayor Frederick, knowing you and working with what I've noticed around the country is that, it's only really a handful of cities, when you say the name, you don't have to say anything else. And their cities like San Francisco or London. And through y'all's guidance, and I've had a chance of being working with you, that's what Orlando has become.

Mayor Hood:

Yes.

Commissioner Stuart:

Because people say, "When I'm around, where are you from Orlando?" Orlando! Yes, I know about that. And all of a sudden there is an individual identity around the world for what we do. 

Mayor Hood:

Yes, there is. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And you need to be complimented for that. 

Mayor Hood:

And if you go back and look on old maps of Florida, Orlando was not even on the map. And so that was one thing I know the Chamber of Commerce was pretty upset about, and so they worked to make sure that Orlando was always on every map. But you're right. You don't have to say Orlando, Florida anymore. It's Orlando and people recognize us. And certainly they recognize us because of the theme parks. And that's the primary reason we have visitors come, but that's changing. And that's what we want. We want people to go to our arts offerings, and we want people to come to our sports events. And we want people to just come and visit their friends here. Or maybe move here. We're getting that too. 

Commissioner Stuart:

When you were mayor, I think population was around 200,000? 

Mayor Hood:

That's correct. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And now it's right at 350,000. And with the growth of Lake Nona, we could be at half a million in a very short amount of time. Very easily. 

Mayor Hood:

People are always surprised that we're not several million people because, again, because we're so well known and we have so much to offer. So for a city our size, even though we've grown a tremendous amount in the last couple decades, we're still small compared to a lot of these major cities, but we have so much to offer. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Interesting part in California. California is known as Orange County, California. Orange County and Orlando in this area is known as the Orlando area. So it's not called Los Angeles. It's Orange County, California, and the Orlando area.

Mayor Hood:

Yes.

Commissioner Stuart:

Which I know makes some of the guys in the county a little bit uncomfortable. But the flagship has always taken the name.

Mayor Hood:

I know, exactly.

Commissioner Stuart:

Even though there's three or four million people around here, the flagship taken the name. Now, as we wind up, and as I mentioned before, there's a lot of information. So if you all want to know facts and things and great stories, they're on the website. But legacy becomes an important word, a very interesting word to all of us. You've had the privilege of really being kind of a living legacy, at least to me. As you reflect on this idea, what are some guiding thoughts or words that you have kind of for the next generation of leaders? 

Mayor Hood:

Well, first of all, get involved. Get involved in your community. Volunteer. If it's just for a tree planting in your neighborhood or with a nonprofit organization. But volunteer for a purpose and make sure that you're willing to work with and listen to and bring things about with other people. Don't go in with a personal agenda ever. Be courageous. If you believe in something, stand up for it. I think that's so important. And be thoughtful and respectful of others' opinions. Because a lot of times, that's not the case. And I think we're seeing that so much right now in our communities. And it saddens me. We really need to be respectful and thoughtful of one another. Like I said earlier, don't be concerned with who's going to get the credit for something. Do what's right. And listen to others. I think that's an important attribute that you need to have. And humility goes a long ways. I can't emphasize that enough. You know, there's a little book that somebody gave me and it's called "Balcony People." And it says, "Surround yourself with people who elevate each other and pull people up to do good things and be purposeful." Don't let people pull you down. And I think if we're all balcony people and do things for the right reasons and make our communities better and work together and be respectful with each other, I think, you know, our communities and our world is going to be a much better place. 

Commissioner Stuart:

And we need that more than ever.

Mayor Hood:

Yes. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Let me just say thank you. It's my intent to make sure these stories are told, but it's also my intent to have people want to know more about our community. And you've accomplished that. If you want to know more about Mayor Glenda Hood, her lifetime as a public servant, you can read those details at the HistoryCenter.org, OrlandoLandTrust.org, Orlandomemory.org. Or, if you want to, just Google her. There are some great articles about you in the paper and on Google and I am so grateful for that.

Mayor Hood:

Well, I want to thank you for your public service because it's not easy. I think it gets harder and harder every year. But for those of you that step up and take on leadership roles, I'm eternally grateful that we continue to have great leadership in our community. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Well, like with you, both of us will give the credit to our parents. 

Mayor Hood:

Absolutely. 

Commissioner Stuart:

They're the ones that said, that taught us that your task, if you're going to be involved in a community, you have to be engaged. 

Mayor Hood:

And your parents and my parents were both very involved in the community and set a great example for us. 

Commissioner Stuart:

Mayor Hood, thank you so much. Thank you. I'm honored to have spent the time with you and and speaking on behalf of our entire community. Let me express our gratitude for you and your leadership. Our city would not be what it is today without you. I want you to say thank you. I also want to thank our listeners for taking a few minutes of their time to join us today. So that's it for now. Please look for more discussions or Orlando's History Makers on this podcast channel. I'm your host, Orlando City Commissioner Robert Stuart. I appreciate your listening. Remember, let's value our past, learn from it, and make our future brighter than ever. Thank you.

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